Pro Cash Money Makers
http://www.procashmakers.com/forums
Unfortunately I don’t know this guy’s name, all I know is that he’s in the Philippines.
I had joined his forum quite a while ago, & I kept getting these automated messages asking me to come back & participate.
I never liked the forum, I felt it was disorganized, & for the life of me, I couldn’t figure out what in the world the entire forum was about other than money.
So one day after 4 months of being a member on his forum, but not participating, I thought maybe I could advertise on there & see if I get any results.
I IMed him on Yahoo because I wanted to find out more information. At times it was hard to understand him or get the info I needed (he was busy doing something else while IMing with me), but I finally decided to go ahead & pay him the $20 for his monthly subscription. It was to put a rotating banner at the top of several of his pages.
I didn’t even know Alert Pay had a subscription method, but was pleasantly pleased that he was using Alert Pay.
After 2 weeks of tracking if people were actually clicking on my banner (I use ad trackers) & signing up for my lists or even purchasing, I saw only 4 clicks.
Based on that, I could see that it was a dead end method of marketing, so I e-mailed him at advertising@procashmakers.com & asked him to cancel my subscription.
I didn’t receive a response, so a week or so later, I IMed him asking him if he got my e-mail.
He said no, so I forwarded him the e-mail again & he was too busy to look at it, he was going to church. Then I checked back again 2 days later & he said he would cancel my subscription.
To me this meant everything was fine, but of course it wasn’t.
The billing date came & he had never canceled my subscription, so I was charged again.
I wrote to Alert Pay about it only to find out that one can cancel their subscription on their own.
Pro Cash Money Makers never told me this (good scam), & this guy (the owner) knew full well I wanted my subscription canceled because the day after I was billed the 2nd time, he suddenly canceled my subscription.
If he was really honest, he would have refunded me my money, but he didn’t, & now I’m dealing with Alert Pay.
So all of a sudden I get this nasty IM from him that says the following:
Pro Cash Money Makers MB Pelaez: hello michelle or whoever you are
Pro Cash Money Makers MB Pelaez: i have not been checking my mails and i just saw this one just now from alertpay. Alertpay said that you did not receive goods from me after payment? What are you trying to do? Scam me? I have been fighting off scammers for a decade now on the internet. Don’t try it on me…
I told him to get lost, & stop harassing me!
Then I e-mailed Alert Pay giving them this information.
This guy is either a moron, or he really is a scammer just trying to get one more monthly subscription before he knows he can’t bleed his customers anymore. I’m not sure what he is, all I know is I DON’T deserve to be talked to in that manner. He is the one who ripped me off, & he is harassing me.
His Yahoo handle by the way, is ivalnaz1121
Here’s the harassing nasty IM I got from this guy who is clearly off his rocker…
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Pro Cash Money Makers MB Pelaez: hello michelle or whoever you are
Pro Cash Money Makers MB Pelaez: i have not been checking my mails and i just saw this one just now from alertpay. Alertpay said that you did not receive goods from me after payment? What are you trying to do? Scam me? I have been fighting off scammers for a decade now on the internet. Don’t try it on me…
Well since I like to believe people are honest, ethical & don’t steal, so this entire time even after his nasty IM, I still believed he just didn’t remember that I had canceled my subscription, but after what he wrote to Alert Pay below, it’s clear that he knows full well he is lying.
I did respond to his IMs, I told him to STOP harassing me. I was shocked by his IMs. As for him keeping my banner on his site, that is HIS issue. I told him 4 weeks ago I wanted to cancel my subscription to advertise on his site which produced a total of 7 hits in a 30 day period.
If he claims the banner is still up, I still only see 7 hits for 1 1/2 months (it hasn’t been 2 months).
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“This client bought a banner ad space for $20 a month and has been in my forum for already over 2 months. You can see the banner ads just above the navbar. I do not know what she is trying to do or if shes trying to scam me but i delivered what she paid 2 months ago.
You can visit the site and see her banner for yourself. http://www.procashmakers.com/forums/forums.php
by the way she is not answering me in Yahoo Messenger so i guess shes afraid to be confronted by the truth and would just like to have her money back just like what every scammer in paypal has been doing. After paying people and receiving products and services they try to ask for a refund. Duh! You should be aware of this.”
I now have his full name…
Percival Pelaez